China boy. Not to mention the sweet triggers. Since then there have been numerous attempts to do the same with GP-100 vs 686. We put two iconic revolvers together to compare and contrast differences and similarities. Any input is appreciated. Joined: Feb 2, 2013. .38 special and .357 magnum, as many already pointed out, share identical dimensions save for the case length, essentially. Don't flick it open or slam it closed, that can damage the mechanism. I'm sure Ruger makes a decent revolver, but that 686 trigger was so fucking crisp. PS: Carry too? They are tough and will last forever if not abused. The gp100 sits higher and didn't feel as "right" in my hands. This will make your hands ache but it does not take as long as you might think. Something more closely comparable to the 686 is the Ruger GP100. I have new shooters who won't be comfortable with that yet so I like the option of a 38 as well. Do the responsible thing; buy one of each. Anyone have experience with both of these that could lend an opinion ? I never liked the GP100, but its predecessor, the Security Six, is a bombproof gun if you can find one for sale. We compare the Ruger GP 100 Match Champion to the Smith and Wesson 686. I was very impressed with it. War eine teure Stunde: Leigebühr für 2 Waffen + Munition. I think the 686 is the better looking gun of the two, but looks are subjective. Both will likely, if you take care of them, be something you can pass along to heirs, so long as the laws are copacetic. I prefer S&W revolvers over Ruger personally, but I've heard good things about the GP100. But I prefer shooting it over the 686. Or is the Redhawk possibly better in some way than a GP100? I second the one of each school... plus a Colt Python and then a Dan Wesson... just to have a choice on Range Day. Smith & Wesson 150853 686 Plus Magnum Single/Double Action .357. People talk about the interior lock and honestly, you barely notice it. How are each of them on trigger pull,accuracy, ruggedness,and value. Re: GP100 vs S&W 686..357 MAG.. by dmoser.270 » Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:06 pm I had a 686 with a 6 1/2 in barrel and that thing was a shooter. For one, Goku's new super attack, God Kamehameha, works differently than Vegeta's. Sounds like I should get the ruger. I've owned several 586/686's and always liked the way they shot. But the GP100 is a quality revolver that is rugged and reliable. Handguns (pistols and revolvers), and everything about them.
Gun violence in Maine. They can shoot everything from wimpy .38 target wadcutters to full-house .357 magnum hunting rounds, and everything in between. I’ve had L frame Smiths and Ruger GP-100s. Print; Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 Next > Apr 18, 2015 #1 . I have owned an 2.5" SP101 and 2.5" 686. Either choice is good and both weapons are just beautiful. I've been looking for a general purpose revolver (thread here) and had a chance to rent a standard GP-100 and a 686+ yesterday, GP-100 vs 686+ - what I learned Smith & Wesson Forum > Smith & Wesson Revolvers > S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present Can you carry or possess a firearm on hotel property in Maine? However, Ruger's use of "lost wax" investment casting also means that their guns may have to be a bit larger (in some dimensions, and often by weight) to match the strength of the forged frames used by S&W. After comparison, the GP100 is evaluated as the better pistol for personal protection and concealed carry. I was just in this same situation and got the GP100. I prefer the GP grip but that's an easy swap. It's also been used by certain military units that operate in and around water. So, handle both, and whatever you decide you've made the right choice. One of the gun magazines back in the 1980's did a pretty thorough side by side comparison between the 686 and Python. Shoot a revolver for the first time (video of it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOmcLlUFA_Q). when it went a piece of me went with it. you definitely won't get that with a new, stock GP100 if that makes a difference. The GP100 is slightly heavier and the design slightly more angular than the 686, but it makes an excellent introduction to full-size revolvers and an outstanding home-defense weapon. I rented a GP100 at my shooting range last week. The L frame beats the K frame models if you want to shoot a steady load or they did when S&W made more revolvers than pistols. Both great .357 revolvers, but the 686 had a better trigger and was a whole bunch less “clunky”. They lend themselves well to dry fire, and dry fire is the great secret to good shooting. Different but close. If you get a blued GP100 I'd avoid using brake cleaner on it, there's a chance it can start to rust before you have the opportunity to relubricate it. It won't fix every fault in the trigger but it will make it noticeably smoother. edit: the 586 is buttery smooth, and the trigger breaks like a glass rod in single action. Am I correct? This post is part of the series: SMART Goal Resources & Strategies, Team management and coaching are key soft skills for managers. Both will likely be fine, though the Ruger is simpler, more overbuilt, and a bit less refined. The Ruger GP100 may be one of the smoothest shooting revolvers on this list. I've seen the match version but yea like you said it adds too much cost. I like the 357 but the 38 is good for newer shooters which I have in my life. I want a .357 and my understanding is both of these can also fire 38 special? along the length of the barrel) dished out areas on the sides, much like many revolver cylinders are fluted. This channel and TYMP Pistol Project are both fully viewer supported. Im leaning towards the ruger because as I understand it, the front sight is easier to remove and in general it's easier to disassemble than the 686. It's not entirely unfounded. More specific than /r/guns but more broad than ccw etc. JavaScript is disabled. I’m in the market for a .357 revolver (6 inch barrel). I think the front sight may depend on the specific model of S&W. The trigger was nicer on the 686 for sure, but it's an easy fix on the gp100. Thread Tools. The buyer’s application is then sent to an investigatory team to do further research. I just picked up a GP100 3". I’ve narrowed it down to two options. More Reviews ›› … The only revolver I ever shot was a 686, and fuck me was it nice. OUT OF STOCK (0) Smith & Wesson LE M&P9 NEW 2.0 Fixed Sights Black. There are some sub-models you can also look at. Unless you drop it into a mud puddle there won't be any need to disassemble it again. The stock 686 has a clear advantage over the GP100 here: out of the box, the trigger of the 686 is smoother, with noticeably less stacking and a cleaner break in double-action and a precise, short single-action pull. Gp100 owner here. There are areas like the hammer and top strap on the GP100 that show where Ruger saves a few pennies to deliver a less expensive gun. As a reloader of stupid plasma hot .357, I think the gp100 was greatly worth it over the 686. With the 686 i'll have a thinner frame along with the unsightly interior lock, however i'm a huge fan of smiths and the quality of their firearms. The hammer and trigger springs are seperate and can be lightened without effecting one another. The 686 won. I'm looking at either a 5" Ruger GP100 or a 5" S&W 686+ pro. I tried both before purchasing and bought the 686. If I want the extra barrel length for accuracy or velocity, I'll break out my GP100 or S&W Mod 686. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. However I'd look into an old used S&W Model 28 or 19. I guess my wallet can blame all the nice people in this thread. With the 686 i'll have a thinner frame along with the unsightly interior lock, however i'm a huge fan of smiths and the quality of their firearms. 686 was the first .357 I shot and I liked it a lot, but I don't like the internal lock they have now. nombres que combinen con eleanor. The stock barrel that a 10/22 comes with is unfluted or non-fluted - means it is the same smooth sides from one end to the other. Tried all three and went the S&W route. The one thing to keep in mind with revolvers is to open and close the cylinder with some care, like you'd open and close a heavy door. That being said, I keep finding myself wishing I'd gone with the Ruger instead. I've never disassembled the Smith, but takedown on the Ruger was pretty easy. Thanks for the feedback. The Ruger has fairly uncomplicated internals, and as was said below, its trigger can be significantly smoothed with an hour and a half of time and $5 of sandpaper. Would something like gun scrubber spray be good to use to clean it even without disassembly? And hot .357 is really fun to shoot. Then disassemble again, hose it down again, let it dry, and spray it down good with your favorite gun lube (not WD40, it turns to shellac over time). I am a S&W fan from the time I was issued one in 1977 and have a few with the 686 being my most accurate. I've purchased 2, new S&W Revolvers, one a 22LR Model 63, and a model 60 .357. I am on a budget and can afford a SW 686 or a Ruger GP100. Appreciate all the responses here, I'm going to go with the Ruger. If this is just going to be a range gun, then any would do. CA Central Coast The GP100 was made to compete against the then-new S&W 686/586 models. So I'm looking at purchasing my first revolver (not first gun) and wanted some input. A wide variety of replacement grips are available and the gun can be made to properly fit your hand. MORE: Dragon Ball Z: Kakarot Skipping Golden Frieza Would Be A Mistake. .357 revolvers require no mod or special equipment to fire .38 special, that's correct. Final conclusions have been mixed on that. I do agree the myth about S&W revolvers shooting loose after 2000 rounds in hogwash. Edit to add that I think that the match version of the GP100 has a nicer trigger, but then again, now you're adding cost. A battle of the Titans so to speak. New GP100 and used 686. They can still be had for fairly cheap if you look hard enough, and they'll last forever. In the unlikely event that you get a Ruger with a timing issue, you can send it back and they'll make things right. Ruger.. It too has become quite rare and expensive as well. If you get a 686, don't disassemble it at all, there is no need to, and the chances of damaging something are considerable. My question is which do you think would provide the best shooting gun. Traded off my 686 4" sometime back. 7 shots will do. The Redhawk is more comparable to the N-frame. While not a monumental effort in any way other than gameplay, Ogre Battle: Limited Edition's … Shot both and am often a rugar whore but the 686+ 6" is my dream wheelgun. Had a chance to view several GP 100 .22 Vs. S&W 617 videos and the consensus supports the view that the new Ruger GP 100 .22LR and it’s sidekick the new Mk. The gp100 seems very solid, however I've heard rumors of timing issues and some rough machining from the factory, although it should be superior for handling hot loads if I choose to take that route. Aus kostengründen habe ich nur mit 38 Spezial geschossen. If you want to work on the GP 100 trigger and replace the factory grips, you can turn a great revolver into an outstanding one. So, I give up on S&W. there is no wrong answer – gp100 vs 686 The bottom line with these two revolvers is that they are similar to the point of absurdity. I went 586 over GP100 and while the 100 is a great gun, I'm happy I made my decision. Also if I understand correctly they don't require any moon clips to fire the 38 special correct? I have a GP100 shooter. Plus, it'seems pretty bad ass to buy hot 357 Magnums that say "do not shoot in anything but Ruger revolvers" on the box. There are areas like the hammer and top strap on the GP100 that show where Ruger saves a few pennies to deliver a less expensive gun. The GP100 is not as expense as a 686 or a 627. Just had someone I know do the GP100 & S&W686 debate. Grip frame design easily accommodates a wide variety of custom grips. Since the Ruger is less expensive, if I go with the GP100, I will be able to afford a trigger job too. The GP 101 and 686 are great. I've got a Security Six that I love. Community Boards will also play a huge role in the players' success. Honestly you can't go wrong, both are awesome. 686 but probably only due to my association with an old gunsmith who can make the triggers on those 686's slick as a whistle. Never had a GP100 however the ruger wheel guns ive owned did not have favorable triggers and I've not been associated with anyone who dealt with making the trigger better if I were to buy a packing pistol it would be either a Glock 20, Smith 69, or a SP 101. The Ruger launched four Blazer rounds into three-quarters of an inch before we (rather annoyingly) got spooked by the success and sent the last two an inch left. It was the first revolver I ever fired. I know it's about having something for the firing pin to absorb the impact but what's the difference with revolvers? The GP100 is and always has been an incredibly strong revolver. I had the same dilemma that was solved when I got a great deal on a lnib gp100. No Sponsors Allowed! The primary purpose of a SP101 is concealed carry plus it is a gun you can practice with … So I am thinking a 2.5 " GP100 would be the way to go to have something similar in frame size to the S&W 686 snub nose. The 6" GP-100 looks bulkier, but only weighs 2 oz more than the 6-shot 686 (46 vs 44 oz). Goal Examples for Finance 1. OUT OF STOCK (40) Smith & Wesson 150712 686 Plus Deluxe Single/Double Action .357. Dunno how easy the GP100 is to take apart by comparison. The GP100 is quite close. If you get a 686, don't disassemble it at all, there is no need to, and the chances of damaging something are considerable. The Ruger GP100 Match Champion was conceived by several members of our team that wanted a competition-worthy revolver." Just make sure the revolver you buy is chambered for .357 magnum, because .38 special-chambered revolvers CANNOT fire .357 magnum.
© 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. I swapped out the one on my 686+ in about 20 seconds with no tools. work got slow and had to sale it. the Ruger is easier to work on, upgrade front sight. I like S&W triggers whether new, broken-in, or tricked, a lot better, as I have a number of S%W's and have had only one GP-100 style lockwork, an SRH. The .357 will kick harder (you can also go in-between, with .38 Special +P). Messages: 2,309 Likes Received: 1,507. Yea I like the 357. It just tames those 357 loads nicely. I've owned two GP100's and a few different SW revolvers and for me Smith is generally a small step above Ruger out of the box. The Smith has a better trigger, and it isn't really close. I’ve shot the GP100, but I have not shot the Smith & Wesson. When you have your skill level up, you can lay a nickel across the front sight and dry fire your gun, double action, without the coin falling off. 4 auto are stellar performers, while the venerable If seven shots of from the newest GP100 isn’t enough or if you simply want the biggest Ruger revolver in .357 Magnum, then you might find their Redhawk line of revolvers in .357 Magnum more appealing. GP100- The hogue rubber grip is thick and absorbs lots of recoil. I've heard it backwards. Strength wise, they would be even - forged & heat treated S&W vs cast Ruger. I would love to hear opinions from anybody with experience in both guns. The only thing that remains the same between the two versions is the plot and battle maps. The gp100 seems very solid, however I've heard rumors of timing issues and some rough machining from the factory, although it should be superior for handling hot loads if I choose to take that route. Thanks for the GP100 .22 LR endorsement. The SP101 is great if you're thinking of carrying, and I like the GP100 too (although I own a Speed Six) but I'd say 686 over it. Then reassemble and you're good to go. I Load a 45 colt to moderate pressures with a 325 grain cast moving 1100 fps, with 800 foot pounds of energy I find it very comfortable to shoot vs 357s.
They nailed the atmosphere in that game. The idea is that this forces the various moving parts to rub against one another, smoothing the contact surfaces. gp100 ® Triple-locking cylinder is locked into the frame at the front, rear and bottom for more positive alignment and dependable operation shot after shot. Press J to jump to the feed. The 686 has a better trigger. Older 686 if you want something a little more refined and have to take care of a bit more. .38 Special through it is really not bad, a bit less recoil than 9mm out of my Glock 19. In der Handhabung gab es leichte Unterschiede aber ich bin mit beiden zurechtgekommen. Hallo, ich suche aktuell einen Revolver in .357 (Voreintrag noch bis Januar) und preislich wäre die absolute Obergrenze 900-1000€.Gebraucht wäre mir auch lieb wenn der Zustand gut ist.Neu gibt es den S&W 686 International mit ungefluteter Trommel,… The new barrel has flat sides, and the underlug stretches just a bit more than halfway instead of going all the way to the muzzle. Much better trigger, fit and finish was better and it holds an extra round. Smith double breaks sooner which is nice. The Ruger is more the F250 workhorse and the Smith is more the Chevy Camaro of the two. I've narrowed it down to the 686 vs GP100.
slab-side bull-barrel and a fiber optic front sight is a winning combo. The public has no access to Maine's concealed carry registry. Fluted means the barrel (such as the Green Mountain you speak of and others) has longitudinal (i.e. I would suggest you try the SP101 before you commit. I've owned several 586/686's and always liked the way they shot. Your choice of a .357 revolver is a good one - these are amazing handguns. I'm full-gay for Ruger, so take this with that in mind. Thanks for the reply. Awesome revolver. The GP100 is in current production and the security six series is not. Another vote for GP100. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I made the same decision and went with the 4" 686+ because it can hold 7 rounds instead of 6 and it had a much better trigger. Both guns are new and have hogue rubber grips. They are both great guns, and both good guns to buy used. GP100 vs SP101 Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by China boy, Apr 18, 2015. And yes, it is heavier than the 686. The 686 is mostly a refinement of the S&W’s iconic revolver pedigree, established with their K/L frame revolvers. Well on my part as far as GP100 vs. 686 I bought a GP100 and at the same time bought a S&W 686 Competitor ( Performance center 686). Hose it down with brake cleaner, let it dry, and reassemble it without any lubrication, and then dry-fire it 1000 times. (Forged/milled frame vs. Investment case/milled frame). Pre-lock 686's to be exact. Picking one among the three will be a matter of personal preference and intended use. If you want to carry a wheel gun but need something that's with a bit more beef than the standard snubby, two guns that will come up in your search are the Ruger SP101 vs GP100.Which is better as a concealed carry revolver? No real reason that I can remember, just wanted something different. Do 500 single action, 500 double. I like the single action of the GP a bit more, but the double of the smith is better IMHO. It's cheaper than a 686 and you can use the savings to get a trigger job and buy some ammo. You will just have to finger each and see which one feels best in your hand as they are BOTH world class guns. My second gun purchase was a 6" stainless GP100 and love it. Ruger GP100 vs S&W 686 6” Barrel .357 Thread starter SailingNut; Start date Apr 18, 2018; Which do you prefer? We value freedom of speech as much as we do the right to keep and bear arms. I have a 686+ and I have no complaints. Thread Tools. If you get a blued GP100 I'd avoid using brake cleaner on it, there's a chance it can start to rust before you have the opportunity to relubricate it. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. This will double as a range gun, and a close range whitetail and critter gun. It's been a long time since I shot 38 special, how's the recoil on it compared to a 9mm, 40 on semi autos? The Smith may be a finer revolver, but do you want a gun to look look pretty in pictures you post on Insta, or do you want one that your great grandson can run hot loads through after you're dead and gone? Having said that my friends new GP100 Match is really nice. Please help by becoming a patron. loved that gun. I blasted several boxes of .38 special rounds but regrettably didn't shoot any .357 through it. Ruger says they implemented the design change in their RedHawks to improve accuracy which it might but I can't see how the real reason they did it wasn't just to cut costs. As others have said the 686 and GP100 are mid sized frames while the SP101 is a small frame. Because of the trigger, I had the tightest pistol group i've ever done, smaller than a quarter at 7 yards. The K/L frame is pretty fat to conceal carry and … The GP100 and the S&W 686 and bigger N frame revolvers are the most compared that I have ever read about. GP100 if you want a 6 gun you can shoot the hell out of and not worry about. I think the difference between the 686 and 60 is that 686 is … Hi, I am getting a 357 revolver very soon. I have owned both, but now only own 2 GP100's. It is a Chevy vs Ford debate indeed. This is a big first for me! Your great grandson can also beat a mother fucker with that ruger if need be. Hi, I am getting a 357 revolver very soon. Ruger GP100: Ruger’s flagship .357 Magnum revolver would be my top recommendation for a home defense revolver from current production offerings. 4.2 inch barrel, 40 ounces, 9.5 inches long, MSRP $899. Wow thanks for all the great tips. I'm too lazy to Google it at the moment, but as I recall the case diameters are identical, and the difference in .357 and .38 has something to do with what part of the bullet was measured to come up with the caliber. Now, letâ s look at some examples of SMART goals for managers. Ruger SP101 vs GP100: Reckoning Of The Ruger Revolvers. I've shot well over 1000 rounds through mine and never had an issue. They have both of them in addition to the 4.2" SP101 for rent where we shoot.
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