Here we go again. [MyAnimeList](http://myanimelist.net/anime/3782/Kara_no_Kyoukai_2:Satsujin_Kousatsu(Zen). Chapter 2 After working for Touko for about a month and a half, I learned an amusing fact. Whatever floats your boat. So Shiki seems to be the murderer, I don't know why he claims to have seen no one, maybe his love for her is that great or he knows something I don't. Apparently he visits Shiki at the hospital every Saturday. Mikiya’s lying his ass off to the cops and saying he didn’t see anyone. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, Movie 2 - Murder Speculation (Part One)/Satsujin Kōsatsu (Zen). Just goes to show how far he'll go to prove for himself that Shiki isn't the murderer. A terrible premonition tends to attract a terrible reality.”. Uh…. Too bad I have to watch this on a laptop, this begs for a proper IPS display. The taijitu is the symbol for the Taiji (Taoism's concept of yin and yang). Things will finally start to pick up, but a fair warning though that for some, there will be some disturbing content in this one. The first seemed like an introduction to the world of Kara no Kyoukai. liquid 15? Real swords? Nothing personell kid, she really popped up behind him. The Garden Of Sinners 43 Fav. Can this have something to do with the murders or that second Shiki inside of her? Now I start to think that maybe it's actually not her doing. Clearly something happened in the time inbetween. And also why she didn't remember him at the beginning. I can say that for sure. I can say that for sure. So it IS Shiki. t09:31 We see that even as a high schooler, Mikiya doesn't exactly have the most tact. 43 Fav. They must both be seasoned swordsmen/women. (Yet). And the evidence points to the killer having an arm injury. Seriously, Mikiya is such an underrated character. Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit: 10th Anniversary Rewatch - Kara no Kyoukai 2: Satsujin Kōsatsu (Zen) • r/karanokyoukai. Shiki wants to “kill” SHIKI. Akitaka is Shiki's servant/bodyguard if you don't remember from earlier. Camping out at a girl's house for days on end huh Mikiya? There are many smaller, minute context clues that can be missed due to their non or tangential importance in the current story (especially if it's your first time watching) but can give and add insight to many characters or other scenes in the movies, both past and future. I forgot I did a bunch of running recaps in Word when I first watched these back in February. t13:29 Something nags at the back of her mind though and she snaps herself back to reality and asks a startled Mikiya where he was just now. All signs are pointing to Shiki however it seems like a red herring. If she didn't make Shiki want to kill me, that is. production materials 13? A string of suicides leaves Japan baffled and devastated. And what did she inherit. This is the discussion thread for Kara no Kyoukai 2: Satsujin Kousatsu (Zen), so discuss away! And the “you’re totally crushing on her” thing. Okay then. They must both be seasoned swordsmen/women. t10:17 Our detective friend Daisuke flips up the jacket on the fourth victim to find a taijitu carved into the victim's skin. That blood-red kimono... Mikiya is really a strange character; he's so kind and likeable, but his interest in Shiki comes across as so strange and somewhat unnatural. Because she knows the pain of murder. She would propably know that people can die from ripping off their limbs if she did that to somebody. Everyone knows that being one hour late is basically like being on time, chill out dude. An interlude with cops tells us we’re now on the fourth one. So do I. Shiki: “Hey, Kokutou. Crap. Thus you know better than anyone else that it's full of sorrow." Or is it because I want to think I’m alone?”. kara no kyoukai 73? She could be doing some investigation of her own given that in the first film they have an investigative group together. smoke 10? She clearly didn't expect him to be there, thinking that the student from before might have told him and others something about her. Shiki meets someone who accuses her of being the killer. 41 Fav. Guess we also now know who Mikiya was visiting in the hospital every week from movie 1. fighting 25? t51:07 We flash forward to June of 1998. Kara no Kyoukai review Part 1 Kara no Kyoukai (lit. It creates a contrast that's fitting for the overall feel of the series. All the ending songs were written to accompany each movie so their lyrics have special meanings in regards to each. read these after you watch the current movie), and will not spoil anything in the coming movies. Also she warns Mikiya that she’ll probably end up killing him if this continues. Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube. smears 5 You pissed 'cause I'm like an hour late?" Wow this film is a lot more gruesome than the first. Is Shiki asleep or comatose? We take a look into the past of Shiki and Mikiya and find out that Shiki has a split-personality. نام های دیگر Kara no Kyoukai: The Garden of Sinners Movie 6, Borderline of Emptiness: Oblivion Recording, The Garden of Sinners: Fairy Tale نوع سینمایی پخش از دیسِمبِر 20, 2008 Speaking of, then he gets a letter from her. Akitaka is Shiki's servant/bodyguard if you don't remember from earlier. Fortunately, she says she won’t go nuts on him. Still some hints give it that she could be the murder, because why was hurt at the elbow, my guess she got that injury from the training with her father, and the school emblem was there because Shiki visited the murder scene...Or I just don't accept that Shiki is a murderer here... Also first time watching this I didn't really understand why Kokutou was camping in front of the estate, but now I believe he wanted to keep Shiki from going out at night. Mikiya Kokutou. ", "The men would all say that they had died," Gilligan said. genga 11? I love the piano in this movie. She also has strong incorporeal feel to her, maybe meeting female ghosts are everyday routine in Nasuverse. r/karanokyoukai: Subreddit dedicated to the Kara no Kyoukai / the Garden of sinners movies and novels. This is where Shaft got their head tilt from. Login Login cu Facebook. t9:31 We see that even as a high schooler, Mikiya doesn't exactly have the most tact. No emotional feelings. Some dots given below may not be relevant now and may form connections with future scenes in future films. t22:21 The two personalities inside Ryougi Shiki are referred to by two different names. No apparent motive or pattern, but that just means it’s trickier to pin down. It seems like the student thinks Shiki is the one that commited the murders. 47 Fav. The soundtrack was so good, it had an eerie feel to it and actually made my heart race when he was getting chased. He referred to her as lady, is she from nobility. This should be in even better quality than the previous uploads. As he tries to become closer to Shiki, he realizes that Shiki is connected to the mysterious deaths and that the supernatural forces involved with both could kill him. They had no capacity for feelings. Goddamn. Some dots given below may not be relevant now and may form connections with future scenes in future films. Butler guy tells her that Mikiya’s hanging outside her house. Enjoy the song by Kalafina and follow along with the lyrics. “What’s wrong?” Oh my god. I mean, why kill each other when we can stare at something as beautiful? t20:21 "She's not the type who'd die because she's lonely, is she?" Here's my present to you guys. Fukan Fūkei - September 1998 5. 46 Fav. Shiki's family, the Ryougi, were members of the Demon Hunter Organization. Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube. I know that Shiki isn't who'll she'll be in later installments but what are the separating factors between them during this movie? Hey everyone sorry for the delay! The Kara no Kyoukai series is filled with a huge amount of content, and all of it eventually comes full circle. Thus you know better than anyone else that it's full of sorrow." Kara no Kyoukai 42 Fav. When a child is born, he or she is given a single name written in two different kanji, each one relating to each personality.Shiki's mother and father are unnamed. this is kind of an important factor, guys. PS: Mark content that is not revealed yet as spoilers, we also got first timers! 40 Fav. But a detective agency specializing in paranormal occurrences notices that there are a few glaring, disturbing similarities tying the deceptively unrelated cases together. They would all say that they themselves had died before they started killing other people. Also that’s her dad. lol so she confirmed the dual personality in the next scene. Don't forget the post-credits scene. Do they have the same inherent ability? Kara no Kyoukai 2: Murder Speculation (First Part) By gendomike / August 14, 2008 . I'll leave out explanations on most of the lengthy dialogue portions, which I would probably butcher, and leave them to someone who actually has a degree in Literature. effects 33? Although it looks like they weren't hit. I have a feeling that will be solved in 3rd movie. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts Also his name is Kokutou, which I’d forgotten. I liked this film a lot more than the first. I really enjoyed the first film, the soundtrack is one of the best I've seen, I hope its like this for the rest of the series. Camping out at a girl's house for days on end huh Mikiya? Shiki now says she has an inner personality. Mikiya trips and falls, and faceless Shiki is going to murder you now, you idiot. Ufotable really knows how to animate rain. Dude would fail so hard at being in a horror movie. The first movie was a disappointment but this is one hell of a lot better.Can be followed better, portrayes characters better, (I swear)looks better, sounds better. So this film was set in 1995 so its 3 years before the events of the first film, this will be interesting. Timestamps will be preceded with a "t" to distinguish between any times presented in the movie, and they are referenced excluding each movie's Cinema Intro. presumed 8? No, not really... t22:07 Those cats resemble other ones associated with TYPE-MOON/the Nasuverse. Camping outside her house is a great way to stop her from killing again. r/grandorder - Unlimited Title Works: The ULTIMATE Timeline of the Nasuverse [Fate, Tsukihime, Kara no Kyoukai, etc.] Clearly something happened in the time inbetween. So... That was very strange. 2 subtitrat. Things will finally start to pick up, but a fair warning though that for some, there will be some disturbing content in this one. The answer is yes when he smacks her into a wall for the win. I don't think my mind is ready, but I'll try to give you some of my live, unedited commentary once more. Seems he's just as confused as me as to why he didn't tell the police. Source: Wikipedia - Kara no Kyoukai. Now I'm even more excited to know what all the hype is about for movie 5! And the whole “she’s kinda creepy” thing. Now we’re in full on cold shoulder mode- literally, considering he spent every night hanging outside her house in winter. The u/Kara_no_Kyoukai community on Reddit. That girl looks ominous as hell standing there alone, it's Shiki isn't it? You're a victim and a perpetrator at the same time. Casually talking about dismemberment while a girls trying to eat, really Mikiya. JUMP. Still we don't have the full picture yet, because who is the real murder and why is Shiki in the hospital? They go to have a cappuccino before parting ways, and Mikiya decides to head back to Shiki's place to make sure that the lights were on there (aka to make sure that she was home). She was not a morning person. Apparently they’re out of sync more because Shiki wants to just deny the split personality. I just point out all the smaller dots that are more easily glossed over to make sure you didn't miss them; I leave it to you to connect them yourselves. “Be careful, Kokutou. The Garden of Sinners, known in Japan as Kara no Kyōkai (空の境界, lit. Are there any particular rules behind the Shiki/SHIKI split? As Shiki and SHIKI are people who have had to constantly "kill" SHIKI the entirety of their lives, they know how painful it is to have to deny someone of their existence. Satsujin Kōsatsu (Zen) - August 1995 - March 1996 2. (Info / ^Contact) Mikiya’s narrating now- Shiki’s isolating herself way more- also it’s January 1996. You always looked so vulnerable. This may have benefitted more with in-line linked screenshots like the other god-tier text walls on r/anime but I'm too lazy to do that. t10:44 Shiki has an encounter with another student where the latter confronts Shiki about the four recent murders. Did he really think she didn't know he was camping out. I don't think she wants to get rid of the witness, she had plenty of chances before he went to the police in the first place. Mikiya’s chatting with cop bro again, and the latest kill was three days ago. So that's where the jacket came from, nice recommendation Mikiya. "Let's mute the voices and show character running around and pointing at things" cliche. Because she knows the pain of murder. t08:49 During the rooftop conversation between Shiki and Mikiya, for those who don't want to look it up, Kokuto is specifically talking about hypovolemic shock, where a loss of a large enough volume of blood makes it so that the heart isn't able to pump a sufficient amount of blood through the body. Shiki is there and OH GOD she’s putting the blood on her face and using it as lipstick… at least I think it’s Shiki. As with the emblem, we currently don't have enough information to tell, so I won't say anything, but one person should stand out from the clues already shown in this film. ? Truck-Kun strikes again. t15:39 Looks like her father's sword got her sleeve. (seriously though it's really good), We open on Specs walking uphill in the snow. Not because they felt guilty--this wasn't a penance for their sins--but because they wanted to see if they had feelings. Join. So after finishing the movie for a second time, I'm on Kokutous site she isn't the murderer here, she is only fascinated by the murders somehow, by my first watch some days ago I wasn't really sure if she murdered atleast the beheaded one in front of the estate, but I believe she just looked out for the murder scenes, and that's why she was going out every night. t31:33 Was the injury really from the scene of the murder? Just goes to show how far he'll go to prove for himself that Shiki isn't the murderer. Because of his cousin's work as a police investigator, Mikiya is given insight into the investigation. Gakuto's pretty perceptive too. Any spoiler texts following bullet points are just there to help "connect the dots" (again, without spoilers). Faceless Shiki (gotta love art derps) has a flashback. 43 Fav. running 6? Ryougi Shiki. Crap. I really hope you recognized this one. And the body was removed of all its limbs. Online. No, not really... t22:07 Those cats resemble other ones associated with TYPE-MOON/the Nasuverse. I'm loving the high top of his friend. As you can see with the other students in the school at places like t6:35, their dress code doesn't seem too strict. She's worried about something. I hope he realised how much of an idiot he was with that first slash. They’re mostly the same, but the difference is “priorities.” Stoic-Shiki doesn’t particularly want to talk to Kokutou, cheery one does. Sadly, you were never able to express your true feelings.". Come on with the rain, I've a smile on my face... Kara no Kyoukai 7: Satsujin Kousatsu (Kou), Kara no Kyoukai: Mirai Fukuin - Extra Chorus. So that explains the ugly jacket. As always, explanations on the Nasuverse are better left to someone more familiar with them, as my interests mostly begin and end with Kara no Kyoukai and Fate/Zero, and I won't be able to explain them without leaving you with more questions than before. :). t5:23 We see someone's silhouette stumble in front of an oncoming truck, the tires of which splash a puddle of blood onto a nearby vending machine. What they meant was that their personalities had died. t52:24 "She kills no one. "Kimi no, namae wa", sorry guys I had to. Archived. I'll leave out explanations on most of the lengthy dialogue portions, which I would probably butcher, and leave them to someone who actually has a degree in Literature. t10:17 Our detective friend Daisuke flips up the jacket on the fourth victim to find a taijitu carved into the victim's skin. t2:47 "As you know, our school motto is freedom..." This is why no one's batting an eye at Shiki's kimono. 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