Her word vomit was in response to the question “what should we do about this problem?” Then he walks out. Until one day, during a tiny argument you hear a sentence that hits you like a bucket of cold water: “We need to take a break.” Personally, I don’t believe in breaks. We Were on a Break fits the bill nicely. Sorry, you didn't ask for all of this, and most of this isn't relevant, but I just wanted to get it out there. If you are familiar with the 90s show F.R.I.E.N.D.S., then you will recognize this long-running joke based on the first time Rachel and Ross broke up. So much of how they handled it could have prevented it, but Ross is the one who carried out his projected insecurities and trust issues, so he’s in the wrong in my opinion. Arguing is a good example. Discussion. So on Monday he asked for a break,on reasons that we have lost our connection,we quarrel too often,he finds it difficult to impress me, individual issues. K. katerkat I wine a lot...it makes me feel better. Once that point is clear, we have to say that in this particular case we are talking about something different. I've watched almost all of the Friends episodes and I've hear repeatedly the "we were on a break" argument between Rachel and Ross, but I never actually saw what Ross did to Rachel while they where supposedly on a break. The ultimate friend's quote ever 16/03/10 - 22:00 Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. It's up to Rachel whether he wants to take back Ross with the information she had. Bitch! 10 comments. On February 13th 1997, the world changed forever. What we're saying is that Ross isn't the bad guy for doing what he did. And even more, later Mark recognises that he likes Rachel, so Ross weren't insane about that. Schau dir unsere Auswahl an we were on a break an, um die tollsten einzigartigen oder spezialgefertigten handgemachten Stücke aus unseren Shops für digital zu finden. As a matter of fact, Rachel did become great at her job and her career only went upwards from then on. Share. A more realistic situation that someone might actually do is send flowers to their girlfriend on her first day at a new job. Until you fully commit to marriage you’re just testing each other out. It may not be cheating on paper, but the message delivered was basically it’s only okay for him to do it but not even the idea (and HIS idea at that, not Rachel’s) of her doing it. Joined Jan 20, 2003. Thread starter CBRorBust; Start date Apr 30, 2004; Prev. Regardless of the technicality, he’s such a hypocrite. Rachel can’t have it both ways. She only seeks Ross when she finds out he likes her. She was a hypocrite because she always did what she hated Ross for, cheating. Were they really on a "break" ? After settling down with the “safe” guy who had basically put her on a pedestal for years, she used him whenever she needed and blew him off whenever he was inconvenient. Do they really believe that’s the end? She knew nothing but shopping at fancy department stores and tried to make a career out of it. They share their own experiences when it comes to taking a break, and how they spent their time - good, bad, and ugly. report. Besides all of these things, Rachel was so dismissive of Ross's interests, career, and educational achievement. There's no degree on waitressing and her bad waitressing skills is just a play on stereotypes of rich peeps not knowing anything about a plebe's job. Ross. It wasn't meant for her eyes, so Ross didn't mean to hurt her. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Ross seeks solace at a party after a bitter fight with Rachel and ends up in the arms of another woman; Phoebe's date needs an interpreter to communicate. Ross and Rachel went on a break for the very first time in 'The One Where Ross And Rachel Take A Break'. Ross. After Ross broke up with Julie for her, she gets all prissy and says "we are never getting back together." Now she started the job without facing any problems except Ross getting jealous over Mark for no reason. 10 months ago. Cookies help us deliver our Services. It’s a fight. A subreddit for fans of the popular hit TV sitcom, Friends. We Were On a Break ISBN13 9780007582419 Edition Format Paperback Number of Pages 416 pages Book Language English Ebook Format PDF, EPUB. They were no longer in a relationship. Nope, he uses it as an argument for her to take him back during their argument, what are u talking about? Goes to England, to tell Ross she loves him, when she had so much time to do so, and everyone told her not to, and ruins his relationship with Emily (although I'm not a fan of the Emily-Ross relationship), all for what? And that's not true. These people drink a lot!! Let’s break it down: “Were Ross and Rachel on a break”…yes absolutely. We all know … He basically doesn’t trust her with Mark and assumes he was right about him when he heard him in the background (valid assumption at that point but only at that point - not ever before - but it shouldn’t matter because they were “broken up,” remember? Everyone and their mother made him the villain and no. So, Ross' "We were on a break!" Making a claim. Please do not reload the page during the search. Rachel was upset at Ross’s jealousy over her male coworker and told him that maybe they needed a break. 1; 2; First Prev 2 of 2 Go to page. That's another reason it's invalid-----There was no consensus reached and if he hadn't acted possessive about her new job and barged into her office almost setting it on fire, they wouldn't have been on the rocks or needed to take a break in the first place-----That was his behavior, that was his fault. Probably. Two, She only decides to give him a chance because she sees the prom video. We were on a break is a book about the funny side of a break up, between a couple that instead of getting married decided to take a break. When women say you are on a break it means you aren't together. And Ross didn’t debate it, didn’t counter it, didn’t fight it. Update: 2019-07-23 1. She didnt mean "break up." And there’s no doubt that both clearly knew they were on a break. Generally humans are little disasters. Just because Ross says they were on a break doesn't mean that Rachel has to get back with him. Ross dude. Rachel barely suggested they take a break and he stormed out without getting details, talking it over or even agreeing to anything. It's like saying you can't break up with your partner because he doesn't want to. big deal, people sleep together all the time. Using file-sharing servers API, our site will find the e-book file in various formats (such as PDF, EPUB and other). 82 votes. A proven incompetent person wouldn't have numerous and continuous opportunities offered to her, so you can't say you can't give people any chances. You must be logged in to vote. ), then expects forgiveness for actually carrying out the act of sleeping with someone else two minutes after supposedly breaking up. Who do you support on the 'we were on a break' argument? You’re forgetting the root cause of the breakup (and yes it was a breakup). Go figure.Friends s3 e15: The One Where Ross and Rachel Take a Break It was ugly. Obviously, he can't force her. 2. Admittedly Ross went way over the top with his jealousy, but it’s a sitcom and they do things for comedic effect. Rachel was already taking care of it when Ross shows up and meddle with her while she's in the middle of her work. The ideal argument parser will recognize both short and long option flags, preserve the order of positional arguments, and allow both options and arguments to be specified in any order relative to each other. At the time, Ross mistakenly suspected that Rachel was having an affair with a co-worker of hers, Mark Robinson, and had subsequently frequently complained about how much time she had been spend… The more you improve your skills in this area, the better you will be at thinking critically, reasoning, making choices, and weighing evidence. 4 talking about this. We know they won’t, so we envision the next fight without even realizing it. Also he had huge trust issues which she should have been sensitive to because his first wife blindsided him by leaving him for someone else after years of marriage. How many couples threaten to break up during a huge fight? Probably more than people here will admit. Go. At the same time he knew that this guy only helped her get the job because he was attracted to her, and she was definitely flirting with him in Ross’s presence while ignoring Ross pretty badly. in the morning they got together. Also we never really see the other person's perspective like Julie. February 12, 2019 March 14, 2019 justtalkingshep. Ross. Ross saw her running around frantically, spending insane amounts of hours at work trying to compensate for the fact that she was incapable of doing the job, and he didn’t want to hurt her by telling her the truth. We replay the last argument in our mind and expect a repeat. But that's what Ross thought she meant. Now when Mark left, there had to be some shakeup since she was left with the responsibilities of another employee so she was already handling a 2-man job. Broke up Ross and Julie after she found out he liked her. That's one. Directed by James Burrows. One might also add that by this point in the show, Rachel was perfectly fine with Ross cheating on 2 other people for her (kissing him when he was dating Julie and Bonnie). If he had been more patient and treat Rachel's career as competition, they still would've been together. Of course not, but she's really calling the kettle black here. I'm not sure how much of the detail you … We want and expect that the person should change the behaviors that get under our skin. And even more, later Mark recognises that he likes Rachel, so Ross weren't insane about that. Or is it a blip? vote. Yesterday, we made up and had quite a nice ride. she can’t break up with him and then say he’s a cheater when he does something broken up people do. It's something he had to do to decide, and she would've done the same thing if she were in the same situation. I’m saying her behavior was rotten to the core and she didn’t deserve him or anyone else who wanted more than to simply use her and if he was thinking clearly he should have never wanted her back in the first place. He (rightfully so) blamed me. In other words both of these commands should result in the same parsed arguments: In her apartment. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. But indeed, no one, never, can force anyone to be with someone he/she doesn't want to. During those eight years, we were on and off for a variety of reasons. I never think Rachel was really better, just had to point this out. Rachel is the true villain of the relationship. She even blew off their anniversary without even an apology or acknowledgement. Were Ross and Rachel really on a break? Rachel and Ross have an argument. Not because all is lost, but probably because all won’t get fixed. If she is hurt, and doesn't want to be with him, is fine. And she admitted she wasn't ever motivated in it because it's not her passion, and that is fashion, she had all the ideas and motivation for it. Why should he? And it's not only her that had chances like that, most of the friends had like Joey getting in the museum and Chandler's firm; or Phoebe working in Chandler's and Joey's jobs. She was willing to ignore him and have a relationship with a guy who was more attractive despite not even speaking the same language; she only showed interest in Ross when he was in a relationship with someone else and he was That One Thing She Couldn’t Have (and as soon as she broke them up and he was available, she lost all interest). gone. We Were On A Break! Just like Rachel said, you can't get out of this by technicality. Ross didn’t handle things the best way but I can’t blame him one bit for not trusting her. In Ross' mind, all his fears were true. We all know the story. Let's say even if Ross was right, it's all up to Rachel to decide if he still wants to take back Ross with the information she just got. 1 response. She even actively tried to subotage those relationships (both times using bad haircuts... That's a weird theme I only now notice...). Rachel ended the relationship. We all use argumentation on a daily basis, and you probably already have some skill at crafting an argument. What is an argument? Rachel said, "We need a break from us." 17 Jun 08. If he told it to another person, maybe he's right. Ross wanted to get back together, heard Mark was at her apartment and got depressed, drunk and slept with someone. It's just that Rachel did good so she retained her career. Argument is completely valid. But, no one is saying that. They were no longer in a relationship. When women say you are on a break it means you aren't together. So, Ross' "We were on a break!" The technicality doesn't oblige Rachel to get back with Ross, relationships don't work like that. We both apologized and we’re moving on. David Schwimmer set the record straight on Monday’s episode of The Tonight Show. I don't think that Rachel was ever perfect, but I strongly disagree that she's incompetent. It’s a passive-aggressive way of letting other guys know she’s taken, and it shows a lack of trust, but it’s something you talk about like adults you don’t end the relationship over it. Rachel accused Ross of … ‘Wasn’t that enough of a break?’ ‘I don’t mean that kind of break.’ There’s nothing worse than the last day of holiday. Who do you support on the 'we were on a break' argument? New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. share. -: Respect is of foremost importance in any relationship. Let’s not forget what led to the fight in the first place. That would be some kind of slavery. Wrong argument. Discussion. Ross wasn’t at fault. It's like saying everyone in field of acting is bad since it happens everytime, or saying doctors working in operations shallow since they have to spend extra hours. Unbelievably childish. Press J to jump to the feed. But the truth is she wasn’t busy, she was incompetent. You should do this before your self- respect starts to disintegrate. Where's the actual affection for Ross, for the person he is? Last Monday, I had an argument with John Holmes and we kind of broke up/took a break. singlewahm. Bouncing between England and Mexico, Kelk’s novel alternates between her characters’ duelling perspectives. No. First of all it's just a secretarial job, and there's three of them in Joanna's office, I'm pretty sure you don't need a degree that's difficult to attain, plus we don't know if Rach has one but I think she did since she used to be rich. But he didn't cheated. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. We dated steadily for three years then took a two-year break while we both lived abroad. And even more, Ross was afraid that she was cheating him with Mark, and when Ross calls Rachel, she is passing the grief with... Mark. And even more, Ross was afraid that she was cheating him with Mark, and when Ross calls Rachel, she is passing the grief with... Mark. Ross talks about it to his friends and … She accused him repeatidly and consistently through the years of cheating on her. With Jennifer Aniston, Courteney Cox, Lisa Kudrow, Matt LeBlanc. The book’s protagonists, Liv and Adam, are equal parts endearing and infuriating as they try to figure out what they want from life—and whether that includes one another. ‘Witty, funny, warm and wise’ Marian Keyes Is it a break? In Ross' mind, all his fears were true. It has nothing to do with the technicality though. Then he finally stood up for himself and demanded to be treated like an equal in the relationship, and her response was to hurt him as much as possible and make him think they were broken up, as retaliation for his audacity to say she should show him a little respect. I know things hasn’t been going smoothly for either of us. Maybe you should've stayed away from Ross and kept your unstable and selfish feelings to yourself and let him live out his relationship with Julie. Words and vibes were exchanged and we decided we should maybe just take a breather. While what he did can be seen as dickish & hurtful, it wasn't cheating. He can't just say something like it wasn't violating any rules, therefore they should get back together. He should have just let her do her job and finish for the night. But despite what we just said, and y'know, the title of the episode and everything, it's still pretty unclear whether the duo actually were on a break. And, they share comments from listeners about when and why they took a break and how it helped (or not)! I can understand the “technically, he didn’t cheat” argument, but their fight was so stupid/dramatic and they SUCKED at communication. done. I thought there was something missing, the story was original but not real, the back and forth between the characters were confusing, not very well developed. Argument is completely valid. When I watched it all I could think of was how it's not gonna pass up for today's show standards because of how little regard they did to Julie and her feelings. She caught a nasty attitude toward Julie and the relationship in general because she found out Ross liked her. She admitted that’s not really what she wanted, him too, but for argument’s sake let’s say they did technically break up. Events leading up to the break-up of Ross and Rachel. Nope. Oh… When you really step back and look at it, Rachel is a horribly selfish, spoiled, manipulative and terrible human being. What Ross did is a betrayal of their relationship and it absolutely is fair enough for Rachel to consider it cheating. If anything, Ross should have dumped her, broken contact and moved on with his life way before that. She's not thinking 'well it's ok, we DID break up for 12 hours that night'. @singlewahm (42) • United States. r/AskReddit is the place to ask and answer thought-provoking questions. Posted by 9 hours ago. It's maybe not fair for her to rub it in Ross' face the way she does when they briefly reconcile in season 4, but I'm totally on her side when it comes to the 'we were on a break' thing. The phrase has its roots in the fifteenth episode of the third season of Friends, titled "The One Where Ross And Rachel Take A Break", when a rift between Ross Geller and Rachel Greene (a couple at the time) came to a head. Description. Does anyone know how this came to be? Because that's what her feelings were: unstable and selfish. Does that compel her to take him back? The thing is if Ross cheated on Rachel. Miraculously, a male stranger just walked her into the front door of her dream job that she had zero ability to perform at. “From us”. No. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. save. We had a rough ride, I blamed him. 4 days 14 hours left. She broke up with him. In her apartment. Ross didn’t trust her. She tried to have one actual job as a waitress and she was lousy at it. She had no degree, no professional experience, all she had ever done was be a homecoming queen and prepare for a life of getting by on her looks. If Rachel doesn't want to be with Ross, for whatever reason it is, that's fine, and he can't do nothing about it. This year has been the toughest for us, we quarreled more often than recent years. If such disputes and arguments have been happening now for a long then you should definitely part ways. Also, op could use 'moo argument' and didn't. Finally, during the argument at Rachel’s apartment, she states “We were on a break!” Conclusion: So, from all this, you can see that it was Rachel's fault for not caring enough about her relationship with Ross, and then after dumping him herself, she has no right to dictate what he does afterward, especially since Ross already caught her with the guy who causes his jealousy to begin with. Spending extra hours on a job is not a sign of incompetence, it always happens specially in jobs that works on a deadline, that's like most jobs. So I didn’t go near him all week. What happened? hide. For Ross to have a ruined marriage and for them to not even get back together. Clear as the sunshine, they were on a break. Ross dude. I agree. The fact that she was accepted when she easily could have been turned down proves already she's a capable person. She did it when he was with Julie, and also the bald girl, and she wanted to also do it to Emily when she's gonna get married to Ross, just coz both of them think they're OTP and disregard everyone. ‘You’ve just had a holiday,’ I pointed out, trying not to yawn. But he's asking Rachel that time and he uses that argument which is totally invalid, like I said it's not up to him to decide if she should take her back with that information. My boyfriend and I have been dating for 5 years, we actually started dating when we were 17. That would mean that ‘we were on a break’ was in fact her breaking up with Ross.” With that said, most users agree it wasn’t really right of Ross to sleep with someone else so soon. There’s no doubt about it, no confusion, no debate, no controversy. If she is hurt, and doesn't … You can't force another person to make a mutual decision by yourself. Rachel. But I think he looked insensitive because he kissed someone else in less than 24 hours, They were on a break, but Ross is a man-whore and should've waited more than 24 hours, I am patrick's roommate and therefore do not know what the confederate flying flag f*ck this means, Anyone who does that shit over a break doesn't deserve to be taken back, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. We Were On A Break. Sarah & Kaela are talking about taking a break from trying to conceive. The superficial reason for the fight was that Rachel was so “busy” that she hadn’t spent any time with Ross in weeks. Close. 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